I think there's something fishy to it. Because it's horribly unreliable and through that horribly unfair and useless.
Some theorize that magical children are born with the Trace but I don't think so because the books talk about it as something that is put on people, as in a charm. And in magic it should be possible to make a more specifically effective charm. Even the Magic Quill at Hogwarts lists the names of every magical inhdividual born. The Trace should be working the samw way but it isn't.
I've racked my brain with the Trace matters after I (in the Answers part of thsi club) brought up the question whether it remains active until the 17th birthday even if a minor drops out of Hogwarts years before he/she turns 17. (Because the Trace seems to be placed only on verified Hogwarts students to begin with (as Hermione received nno warnings though she studied spells before she began Hogwarts) and expulsion seems to be the worst thing they'll do if taking action seems needed. As in the Trace seems to very strongly relate to literally studying at Hogwarts, so I wondered if they'd remove it when a person chooses to drop out.)
But then I figured it really doesn't make much of a difference if it is or isn't, because 95% of minors can get away with magic even with the Trace on. To some extent, everyone can.
Because if I've understood corerectly...To the Ministry of Magic, the Trace can only detect:
1. that magic has been performed nearby an underage wizard or a witch
2. which charm/spell/curse was used
3. the location
But it does not detect who the underage wizard was. They can only try to figure it out by the location.
This leads into it being completely impossible for the MoM to blame a minor living with one or more magical adults, and thus (supposing the parents are not around or just dont' care) for the minor to perform any amount of magic at their own house without any consequences. But minors living with muggle adults are totally opposite case.
And a minor could walk into the area of said kind of minor and perform magic there, and this innocent minor would get the blame! (Much like what happened with Dobby the house-elf and Harry.)
And a minor could throw charms, even in the presence of a muggle, in any location that has numerous underage wizards living there, and then just flee from the crime scene before someone from the Ministry gets there to try and identify who it was. The Ministry would have hard time finding out who of the numerous minors living on the area, is guilty, if any as it mightr as well have been an adult in the company of a minor. And even if it was the unknown minor around whom the magic happened, they could've used someone else's wand and thus if the Ministry actually took time to go through all the houses with a minor living in, they'd never find out who it was or might end up accusing the wrong person.
And seeing to the fact that totally muggle-free areas are rare, it is likely there usually do live more than one underage wizard or a witch on one muggle-habited area. Which again deeply affects the chances of the finger being pointed at the right minor, if the magic happened outdoors.
They obviously rely much on the parents enforcing the rules on their children for the sake of the secrecy and the child's safety. But if the Ministry really wanted to give their two cents to the cuase...Why did they make the Trace so gawddamn vague instead of making it detect the sourcerer's indetity? That way the effect would be maximum and it would be catching equally everyone. The way the Trace is, doesn't offer any real help whatsoever but on the contrary it picks on those and only those children with less pure blood and/or not so fortunate home location. And even if it did offer a little help, it's minus aspects are far more numerous/significant.
Thus, to me it seems that with the Trace, the Ministry does not have the childrens' best interest in mind, nor do they care about the secrecy that much.
It seems to have a touch of attitude problem towards muggle-borns and favorism of purebloods and half-bloods. And also of a lust for power, (hence the 'we can accuse, warn and punish children based on our vague assumptions, and you have to live with it because there's no hihgher law to our society than us. Har-har-har!')
The law forbidding underage sourcery in presence of a muggle is of course all good and well and certainly out of right and respectable motives. But "the Trace" that supposedly enforces that law, really seems to be ill-motived and completely useless to far extent.
Do you think I'm on to something here, or that this is just Rowling's failure to pull together one aspect of her fictional world - or am I missing something crucial?
Some theorize that magical children are born with the Trace but I don't think so because the books talk about it as something that is put on people, as in a charm. And in magic it should be possible to make a more specifically effective charm. Even the Magic Quill at Hogwarts lists the names of every magical inhdividual born. The Trace should be working the samw way but it isn't.
I've racked my brain with the Trace matters after I (in the Answers part of thsi club) brought up the question whether it remains active until the 17th birthday even if a minor drops out of Hogwarts years before he/she turns 17. (Because the Trace seems to be placed only on verified Hogwarts students to begin with (as Hermione received nno warnings though she studied spells before she began Hogwarts) and expulsion seems to be the worst thing they'll do if taking action seems needed. As in the Trace seems to very strongly relate to literally studying at Hogwarts, so I wondered if they'd remove it when a person chooses to drop out.)
But then I figured it really doesn't make much of a difference if it is or isn't, because 95% of minors can get away with magic even with the Trace on. To some extent, everyone can.
Because if I've understood corerectly...To the Ministry of Magic, the Trace can only detect:
1. that magic has been performed nearby an underage wizard or a witch
2. which charm/spell/curse was used
3. the location
But it does not detect who the underage wizard was. They can only try to figure it out by the location.
This leads into it being completely impossible for the MoM to blame a minor living with one or more magical adults, and thus (supposing the parents are not around or just dont' care) for the minor to perform any amount of magic at their own house without any consequences. But minors living with muggle adults are totally opposite case.
And a minor could walk into the area of said kind of minor and perform magic there, and this innocent minor would get the blame! (Much like what happened with Dobby the house-elf and Harry.)
And a minor could throw charms, even in the presence of a muggle, in any location that has numerous underage wizards living there, and then just flee from the crime scene before someone from the Ministry gets there to try and identify who it was. The Ministry would have hard time finding out who of the numerous minors living on the area, is guilty, if any as it mightr as well have been an adult in the company of a minor. And even if it was the unknown minor around whom the magic happened, they could've used someone else's wand and thus if the Ministry actually took time to go through all the houses with a minor living in, they'd never find out who it was or might end up accusing the wrong person.
And seeing to the fact that totally muggle-free areas are rare, it is likely there usually do live more than one underage wizard or a witch on one muggle-habited area. Which again deeply affects the chances of the finger being pointed at the right minor, if the magic happened outdoors.
They obviously rely much on the parents enforcing the rules on their children for the sake of the secrecy and the child's safety. But if the Ministry really wanted to give their two cents to the cuase...Why did they make the Trace so gawddamn vague instead of making it detect the sourcerer's indetity? That way the effect would be maximum and it would be catching equally everyone. The way the Trace is, doesn't offer any real help whatsoever but on the contrary it picks on those and only those children with less pure blood and/or not so fortunate home location. And even if it did offer a little help, it's minus aspects are far more numerous/significant.
Thus, to me it seems that with the Trace, the Ministry does not have the childrens' best interest in mind, nor do they care about the secrecy that much.
It seems to have a touch of attitude problem towards muggle-borns and favorism of purebloods and half-bloods. And also of a lust for power, (hence the 'we can accuse, warn and punish children based on our vague assumptions, and you have to live with it because there's no hihgher law to our society than us. Har-har-har!')
The law forbidding underage sourcery in presence of a muggle is of course all good and well and certainly out of right and respectable motives. But "the Trace" that supposedly enforces that law, really seems to be ill-motived and completely useless to far extent.
Do you think I'm on to something here, or that this is just Rowling's failure to pull together one aspect of her fictional world - or am I missing something crucial?
I don't know things about you but in my side, i will really miss my childhood movie. I was growing up with this movie. I really can't beliave the end has came. I will miss the perfect friendsip trio; Harry-Hermione-Ron.
I will miss Romione couple. At the beggining, we all thought there will be a chemistiry between Harry and Hermione but as the time goes on, we all learned how can love be possible, funny. We loved Romione!Their fights were the beggining of a big love. :)
I really love this movie because when ron left hermione and fight with Harry, Hermione cried at all nights but she pretended like she does never care. And she tried to help Harry all the time. She didn't hurt herself or stopped being.
I will never forget the most enjoyable Beautiful perfect movie in my life.!
i really want to know your ideas. I will always be watching and writing comments about it!
and do't forget that; LEGEDS ARE UNFORGETTABLE:))
I will miss Romione couple. At the beggining, we all thought there will be a chemistiry between Harry and Hermione but as the time goes on, we all learned how can love be possible, funny. We loved Romione!Their fights were the beggining of a big love. :)
I really love this movie because when ron left hermione and fight with Harry, Hermione cried at all nights but she pretended like she does never care. And she tried to help Harry all the time. She didn't hurt herself or stopped being.
I will never forget the most enjoyable Beautiful perfect movie in my life.!
i really want to know your ideas. I will always be watching and writing comments about it!
and do't forget that; LEGEDS ARE UNFORGETTABLE:))
Your favorite devils food cake recipe, made into cupcakes
black string licorice
Instructions
Bake your cupcakes according to the instructions, without using paper cup liners.
Slice off the top of the crown of each cupcake so that when it is turned upside down, it sits flat. This gives you more of a cauldron shape than a cupcake shape.
Cut the black string licorice into small pieces and poke them into the cupcakes as cauldron handles.
Ingredients
dark chocolate
dry chow mein noodles
Instructions
Melt your chocolate until smooth.
Stir in noodles until the mixture is thick enough to hold together.
Spoon bite-sized clusters onto wax paper and let harden in the refrigerator.
If you want longer-lasting candy, melt 1 stick cooking paraffin per 12 oz of chocolate before adding the noodles.
These can be frozen, just thaw before serving.
black string licorice
Instructions
Bake your cupcakes according to the instructions, without using paper cup liners.
Slice off the top of the crown of each cupcake so that when it is turned upside down, it sits flat. This gives you more of a cauldron shape than a cupcake shape.
Cut the black string licorice into small pieces and poke them into the cupcakes as cauldron handles.
Ingredients
dark chocolate
dry chow mein noodles
Instructions
Melt your chocolate until smooth.
Stir in noodles until the mixture is thick enough to hold together.
Spoon bite-sized clusters onto wax paper and let harden in the refrigerator.
If you want longer-lasting candy, melt 1 stick cooking paraffin per 12 oz of chocolate before adding the noodles.
These can be frozen, just thaw before serving.
I throw my wand up in the air sometimes
saying,"Ah-oh, my name is Draco!"
I wanna celebrate and kill Dumbledore
saying "Ah-oh,old man, just let go."
We gonna rock the school
We gonna go all night
We gonna light professors up
like they're dynamite!
Cause I dueled you once,
Now I dueled you twice
We gonna light them up
like they're dynamite.
We gotta move, move, move, move
Get out the way of me and my crew, crew, crew, crew,
Sanpe, Bellatrix and Fenrir too, too, too, too,
It was on and on and on,
Now Albus is gone and gone and gone, yeah!
CREDITS:
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(gryffindorgal made the last part)
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saying,"Ah-oh, my name is Draco!"
I wanna celebrate and kill Dumbledore
saying "Ah-oh,old man, just let go."
We gonna rock the school
We gonna go all night
We gonna light professors up
like they're dynamite!
Cause I dueled you once,
Now I dueled you twice
We gonna light them up
like they're dynamite.
We gotta move, move, move, move
Get out the way of me and my crew, crew, crew, crew,
Sanpe, Bellatrix and Fenrir too, too, too, too,
It was on and on and on,
Now Albus is gone and gone and gone, yeah!
CREDITS:
greekgirlA,and boredcreativity have made this
(gryffindorgal made the last part)
become a fan of us and we will make more spoof songs to your favorites! just tell us the song,
and only if you become a fan!
If only we could be together,
You and I,
But our parents would never allow it,
You and I,
Our hearts are broken,
Yours and mine,
I weep for you,
My dear Rose,
Tears run down my face,
Like water flows.
I love the way your wand made flowers,
Made me feel like I had super powers.
I love your spirit,
Fierce but charming,
Complimenting and healing mine,
Which is hurtfull and harming.
My dad's a butt,
My mum is too,
But YOU made my heart soar,
When I was with YOU.
Your the best witch ever,
Inherrited your mum's brains,
Your hair is fiery,
Like a bright pretty flame.
If only we could be together,
You and I,
Forever together,
You and I
You and I,
But our parents would never allow it,
You and I,
Our hearts are broken,
Yours and mine,
I weep for you,
My dear Rose,
Tears run down my face,
Like water flows.
I love the way your wand made flowers,
Made me feel like I had super powers.
I love your spirit,
Fierce but charming,
Complimenting and healing mine,
Which is hurtfull and harming.
My dad's a butt,
My mum is too,
But YOU made my heart soar,
When I was with YOU.
Your the best witch ever,
Inherrited your mum's brains,
Your hair is fiery,
Like a bright pretty flame.
If only we could be together,
You and I,
Forever together,
You and I
All over the world people are howling
About those great books by J. K. Rowling
Three little books that appeal to all ages
One learns about enchantments and spells in these pages
And a young boy who is quite ordinary in appearance
Who discovers he's a wizard with powers quite immense
To learn to control them he goes to Hogwarts School
And becomes a member of Griffindor, the house that's really cool
But its not all work, there's also time for fun
A great game called Quidditch which has to be won
With broom that fly and a cloak that makes him disappear
We know this young wizard will enjoy his year
But it's more than one year - it's going to be Seven!
For the lovers of fantasy that sounds like heaven!
If you haven't yet read about Harry Potter
Well, you really ought 'ter!
About those great books by J. K. Rowling
Three little books that appeal to all ages
One learns about enchantments and spells in these pages
And a young boy who is quite ordinary in appearance
Who discovers he's a wizard with powers quite immense
To learn to control them he goes to Hogwarts School
And becomes a member of Griffindor, the house that's really cool
But its not all work, there's also time for fun
A great game called Quidditch which has to be won
With broom that fly and a cloak that makes him disappear
We know this young wizard will enjoy his year
But it's more than one year - it's going to be Seven!
For the lovers of fantasy that sounds like heaven!
If you haven't yet read about Harry Potter
Well, you really ought 'ter!
I was reading HP6, at the part where you find out that the guants are descended from the 2nd peverell brother.the ressurection stone was passed all the way down till it camme to be in the possession of Morfin, Voldemort's uncle. Young Voldemort stole it from Morfin. which means that the 2nd peverell brother is Voldemort's great great great great great great however many greats grandfather. well we learn that harry is descended from the 3RD PEVERELL BROTHER. WHICH MEANS THAT VOLDEMORTS LOTSA GREATS GRANDFATHER IS HARRYS LOTSA GREATS UNCLE! SO I REALISE WITH MUCH EXCLAIMATIONS OF "OH MY GOSH!" THAT VOLDEMORT AND HARRY ARE DISTANT COUSINS!
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